Communism vs. Capitalism
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May 14th, 2008 at 9:01 am
I am not a Communist; however, I do have very SOCIALIST political views.
Socialism: You have two cows, and you give one to your neighbor.
Communism: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and gives you the milk.
Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
- Anonymous
May 14th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Communism is the only way to go.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Erika:
I’m sort of confused. Didn’t you say something about the government being corrupt? If we were a communist country the government would be running almost everything. If the government is so corrupt why would you want that?
May 15th, 2008 at 8:47 am
i think Socialism is the only way it should be becasue it can help someone out. :):):):):):):):):):)
May 15th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Megan, do you understand that in a communist country everyone is “equal”
Here in the US we claim to be equal. But honestly we’re not.
Perhaps you should think about being more liberal. It could help you in the long run.
I’d rather be equal to my neighbor and not have to look to them to borrow or to lend. Being rich isn’t the only thing to live for. Communism really supports your country. Everyone is supposed to be loyal and patriotic.
I think that if you want to have an environment where all are equal than you should be a communist. But obviously you feel otherwise.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:48 am
We’re not talking about socialism. Sofi just mentioned that.
We’re talking about COMMUNISM AND CAPITALISM.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Erika:
Of course I know the US isn’t equal. I just don’t think communism is the best way to live.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Alright. That’s your opinion. I just think I’d rather live in a country where most everyone is equal and we all have the same amount. In a communist country people live on minimal belongings, which I think is great. Who needs so much stuff anyway?
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May 15th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Erika:
I think we should discuss the many aspects of Communism and capitalism, including totalitarianism, socialism, bureuacracy, democracy, etc. etc.
This will provide a broader outlook on a lot of things with which we will continue to teach with.
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May 15th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Kaitlin:
The definition of socialism I posted above is a VERY oversimplified version of what socialism actually is.
Read a little bit.
Look up Karl Marx, Charles Fourier, Saint-Simon, or Mao Tse-Tung.
These were Communists and Uptopian socialists.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Yes, it does offer a wider view. But I think to those who know NOTHING about communism or capitalism you should read up before commenting.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Just to point out a fact:
In America, we have practice capitalism.
… Suuuuuure.
Just about 54% of the Communist Manifesto is incorporated somehow into our so-called “capitalist” society!
This illustrates how vital the steps to achieving pure Communism is to maintaining true capitalism.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I do see, though, the positive aspects of the capitalist society in which we live.
People make money, and that makes them happy, and a happy society (many people think) is a good society.
Though, most of us, being in the “bourgeois”, or middle class, don’t think much about the “proletariat”, or the working class.
Just as Karl Marx predicted, in a capitalistic society, the rich are getting richer at the proletariat’s expense.
We are in dire need of an economic revolution.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Who hears me?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I hear you Sofi, I just have no idea what your saying, sorry. What exactly do you want to happen to this country?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
We need an economic revolution!
We need fairness!
We need justice!
We need equal distribution of our country’s weath!
We need to introduce a strict social democracy within this country!
That’s what I want to happen to this country!
May 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
YES!
We need fairness. We need everyone to be equal. We need to do unto others as would do unto us.
I’m moving. To Cuba. (better health care, and they under dictatorship, is that fair? YES! Because they’re all equal there, unlike here where we have the elite, the poor, the average, and the in between.)
May 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I would, though, rather move to Scandinavia.
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Check out their system.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:47 am
As much as I’d love to agree with your slightly naive interpretation of Cuban dictatorship, I can’t.
Fidel is, frankly, an ass. He went literally insane with power.
Raul, however, has been making minor “cosmetic” reformations such as legalizing sales of personal computers, allowing Cubans to stay in tourist hotels, and take out cell phone contracts.
He also wants to help boost food production, which has been named a national issue.
This is the EXTENT of the freedom there, Erika.
Cuba would NOT be the loveliest choice.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Erika:
I just want to know your opinion on something. Let’s say two people are living in a communist country. One person works hard to provide for his family. The other just sits and watches TV all day. The one that actually works is considerably more wealthy than the other. Are you saying that we should take money away from the person that works and give it to the person who’s poor, so that everyone is “equal”?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Megan:
The person that “works hard to provide for his family” wouldn’t have to.
Are you hearing yourself?
And the person that works hard is NOT considerably wealthier, because in a Communist country, the mindset is that every person gets equal share of the wealth.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am
So if nobody has to work…
May 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Megan:
Communism is based off of Marxism (though Marxism and communism are different. Marxism focuses on the proletariat and their rights to be equal to the upper class. Marx in short is all for the workers), but is usually totalitarian. The facet of communism is to have equal work equal pay, or similar, but as we know it doesn’t always work that way. What has happened is a lower work ethic (because everybody gets payed, no matter how hard they work), corruption, and poverty.
In theory, communism is a beautiful idea.
In practice, communism is a disaster.
May 19th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
And to all of you that are wondering how Communism even works?
It doesn’t.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:48 am
If you haven’t heard of Alger Hiss, please google him.
Read about him and Whittaker Chambers and what went down.
Why is communism looked down upon?
I don’t understand why people see it as a bad thing!
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 am
Oh, I know my interpretations of the Cuban government are a tad bit naive, but none of us have lived there, so who am I to tell it like it is? I wish it was a perfect country, but really, is any country perfect? I think not.
EVERY country has its faults, just like EVERY person has their own faults. The thing is nothing is perfect. I just personally, would like to move to Cuba. What’s wrong with that?
As a retort to Megan’s previous comment which I have neglected to respond to, do unto your neighbor as you would want them to do to you. Have you ever heard of a favor, or of helping someone out? That’s basically communism, everyones equal, no ones better, and if one makes money and the other doesn’t they choose to help the other out.
Isn’t that just ideal?
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Idealistic communism is a beautiful thing.
What communist countries have, however, are tyrannical monstrously power-hungry monarchs that want, want, want.
To change that would be to change the course of humanity. To change that would be to change what most of us have been raised to believes are the ideals (such as success in the business world).
And that is something nobody will ever know how to do under the veil of peace.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Socialism and basic forms of Communism are practiced elsewhere in the world.
So, we have resorted to kibbutzim in Israel and communes throughout the rest of the world (see Brook Farm, Massachusettes and various kibbutz in Israel). People share the work, the wealth, the land, and the larger possessions like cars. This fundamental form of Socialism has been proven to work on a small scale; however, true Socialism would, however sad it may be, take a serious toll on life as we know it.
This is because we are creatures of want.
This is not necessarily a bad thing.
To be human is to want.
The sad thing is that people tend to override things they need with things they want, and therefore, not all of us can focus on what it is we actually need.
In the United States, we have been lead to a false hope.
Do people realize that the top 20% of American families now control almost half of United States income while the bottom 20% is left with less than 5% to divvy up between them? The gap between rich and poor is at its widest since the end of World War II!
Growing polarization between rich and poor leads to greater social and political instability.
The United States ruling class is sitting on a time bomb!