Gay Rights;
Should gays and lesbians have the same rights as heterosexuals? Why or why not?
As most of us know by now, California is allowing gays and lesbians to marry. Massachusetts and California are the only two. Any opinions?
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May 12th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
YES! give them the same rights as heterosexuals.
we’re all the same except for our opinions, and likings.
people should have the right to express their sexuality and not be looked down upon, or discriminated. People need to remember that they have feelings too.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Gay Rights = Yes.
Everyone is equal. Equal Rights are vital. People deserve those freedoms regardless of same sex.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I think that gays and lesbians should have the same rights as heterosexuals because gays and lesbians are people and if they love someone of the same sex then they should be able to love with out getting ridiculed about it.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
If people want to be gay then by all means be gay and if u dont like it then keep it to ur self and mind ur own bees wax
May 13th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Alexis, I don’t think that you should be saying that “we’re all the same except for our opinions, and likings.” because that’s not even close to true, humans are also different physically, emotionaly, phsychologically. So I don’t think saying that we’re all the same has anything to do with gay rights. I think saying that we’re all different, but deserve the same rights makes more sense
May 13th, 2008 at 9:08 am
hmm…I think they should get the same rights, they are still humans right? They just like the same sex, and thats their choice to do that. Give them the same rights.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:11 am
ya give them the same rights but if they start raping little boys
May 13th, 2008 at 9:13 am
then put them in jail?
May 13th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Yeah, the thing I don’t get though is why people make such a big deal about it. It is whoever is gay or lesbian to make there own choice about it. Yes I think gays and lesbians should have equal rights.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Obviously gays and lesbians should have equal rights.
UGH! It just makes me disgusted when homophobs don’t think that heterosexuals deserve equal rights. If the American legislature has a problem with granting heterosexuals with equal rights then we have a big issue on our hands. Everyone should be tolertaed. No matter their preference.
I don’t see how people can live with themselves when they say things like “gays and lesbians shouldn’t have rights, they’re not human, blah blah blah.”
Whose to say normal means heterosexual.
Who can even define normal?
Dictionary
normal |?nôrm?l| adjective 1 conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected : it’s quite normal for puppies to bolt their food | normal working hours. • (of a person) free from physical or mental disorders.
^what makes that definition correct?^
May 13th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Demetrius, how can you even say, “but if they start raping little boys…”
That is a completely terrible thing to say. You can’t just pass a judgement like that.
How would you like it if someone said, “but if he starts raping little girls..” about you?
I honestly am appalled that you could say such a thing.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Jack:
I never meant that we look, think, and feel the same way.
What I meant is that we’re all human beings that deserve the same rights.
better explaination?
May 13th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Demetrius
There is a difference between child molesters and homosexuals. Homosexuals are just attracted to the opposite sex. Child molestation is ILLEGAL, homosexuality is not. Child molesting is usually between an adult and a child, not two consenting adults.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
THANK YOU BARRY.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Alexis, you spelled “explaination” wrong. It’s explanation.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Will:
big deal.
find something better to do on the blog other than correct peoples spelling mistakes.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I think that gay and lesbian people should have the same rights as heterosexuals. I believe that humans are going to like who they want to like. We can’t stop telling people not to like a certain person. I think that people should stop judging people and finding this subject gross. For example if I had a huge crush on this guy and one of my other girl (friends) liked a girl I wouldn’t judge her or look upon her any differently. I think that America needs to learn not to judge people by what they believe in, but by what they agree on.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Just because its not common to see a gay couple rather than a straight couple, doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve the same rights.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:05 am
I think that gays, should have the same rights as people who are straight.
I don’t even see where the problem is.
Its their personal lives, they should be able to live it the way they wanna live it.
We’re all human, and it’s not like bad if people want to be gay and married.
I don’t even get why it was illegal in the first place.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:31 am
There should be an apostrophe at the end of peoples.
IT SHOULD BE: people’s
Oh and I don’t care.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Alexis:
You use too many commas.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Lexy,
When you say that, “they have feelings too,” you’re making gays and lesbians sound like they aren’t humans. If you support giving them rights then perhaps you should start referring to them as you would a heterosexual.
We are all people.
May 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
I think that all humans should have the same rights. Just because someone might love someone of the same sex doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve the same rights. Gays and lesbians should definely have the same rights.
May 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I definetely agree with you Austin
May 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
It is an individuals own opinion to like who they do. Does gender really matter? I do not think so, it really bugs me that if i wanted to get married to a girl i would have to go to massachusettes instead of going to a chapel down the road. What is the difference between a guy marrying a girl and a guy marrying a guy? Do you know what else bugs me? The fact that gay people are killed everyday because of their sexual orientation. It hurts me to know that i am “not as good as” someone is strait. What the heck is wrong with our society?
People are all like ” I’m better than you because im strait”
Another thing is that when two girls are together its “okay”
but to guys is wrong?
May 14th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Well Jade,
good points.
People are killed all the time for their orientation and I personally don’t understand why people having such a hard time accepting differences.
I mean did you see how long it took people to accept blacks and other races, and there is still discrimination today!
People just afraid of change.
Good job Jadenessssss Juvynileeeeee =]
May 15th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Jade/Taylor:
Are you meaning to spell juvenile with a Y in the middle?
May 15th, 2008 at 8:29 am
nahh thats my unique way of doinn it =]
May 15th, 2008 at 8:29 am
jade spells it differentlyyy.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:31 am
i mean yahhh lol
im a bit slow
May 15th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Hey, Taylor and Jade, no one cares how special (or slow or whatever) you are because you spell juvenile oddly. It’s just dumb.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:42 am
And Jade, your name is Jade, not Jadeeee =]
why do you equal bracket anyway?
Same with you Taylorrrr :]
May 15th, 2008 at 8:44 am
does it really matter how they spell juvenile? It’s not a big deal. in my opinion I like the way jade spells it.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:50 am
I just think they should stop complementing each other on how they spell something, this isn’t IM, it’s a blog. So they should have normal names without faces and crap, and talk about the issues at hand and not their unique way of spelling things.
May 15th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Jade
This is a blog to show our opinions. Not to try to spell words weird ways to get a laugh. These issues are really important to people in the United States. So just write your opinion the normal way
-Barryyyyyyy
May 15th, 2008 at 8:58 am
EXACTLY.
This blog isn’t meant for compliments. It’s meant for in-depth debates and discussions.
Thanks Jack for pointing that out.
May 15th, 2008 at 9:01 am
You’re right Jack, this is a blog.
So BLOG.
Don’t criticize how Jade and I spell our names,
you could use your time here better.
Also, it’s not complementing each other.
“….talk about the issues at hand and not their unique way of spelling things.”
^^ Take your own advice.
May 15th, 2008 at 9:03 am
OK PEOPLE, JUST BLOG AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE WAY NAMES ARE SPELLED.
So gay rights.
Whatdya think?
May 15th, 2008 at 9:04 am
if you guys paid attention to stuff i was asked that question and befor e that i had stated my opinion I relize this is a blog so go blog!
May 15th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I don’t care now, what do yuo guys think about gay rights?
May 15th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Of course gays and lesbians should have equal rights as heterosexuals. We’re all human beings, just because they like someone of the same sex doesnt mean that they cant have the same rights as heterosexuals; they derserve it. Im really bothered by the people who treat gays and lesbians like theyre not “normal people”. Humans fall in love with humans, so i dont see whats wrong with having two girls fall in love with eachother.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:28 am
HAHAH! Akari, finally someone who blogs. I think that polygamy should also be legal. If you can marry a girl or guy why can’t you marry two?
(and yes, I’m aware that in almost every state gays and lesbians aren’t allowed to get married.)
May 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I think gay people should have just as many rights as heterosexuals. Just because someone has a different sexual preferance, that means nothing for their rights. Let’s say I hate gay people (I don’t). I know a gay couple that wants to get married. I don’t like that. So I say to them it’s wrong for two people of the same sex to get married. What does that have to do with me? Why should I stop two gay people from getting married, when it has nothing to do with me? People hate this because it’s against their moral beliefs, but really, why should they care if a gay couple gets married? It has nothing to do with them!
May 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Erika:
I do think of gays and lesbians as people.
I’m not trying to make it sound like they’re an animal or something.
I’m actually trying to make the people that don’t support lesbians and gays notice that they AREN’T animals; and to remember that, “they have feelings too” because if the people that don’t support lesbians and gays yell at them or call them bad names, it hurts.
sofi:
haha. how am I doing on the comma thing?
May 16th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Gay people can get married in Massachusettes and in California now!
Yayyy for them!
May 16th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I think gays should have every right that other people do. They are human being like us aren’t they? So that means that they should get the same rights. I don’t get homophobes, they treat gay and lezbians like they’re aliens or something? Gays should get the same rights as us. no question.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I know right!! They can get married in california AND massachusettes now! Woot!
May 16th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
This isn’t all about marriage, people.
It’s about rights.
As in, rights to be protected from ridicule, rights to free speech, rights to hold office, et cetera.
If you advocate gay rights, then why do I hear so many of you in the hallways spouting “insults” like “fag”, “gay”, “homo”, “dyke”, and “butch”?
I admit, I’ve recently been doing it, too. And I’m not the only hypocrite here. We all need to revise our vocabularies.
May 18th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
sofi: you’re right that is a huge problem. What i do not understand is the phrase “that’s so gay” instead of saying that couldn’tan individual say “thats so stupid”or something like that?
May 19th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Well, Jade, just the fact that people think that “gay”, as in homosexual, is synonymous with “stupid” is extremely offensive.
It’s insulting an entire class of people. Imagine if people started saying, “That’s black,” or “That’s HIV-infected”.
If you were under that category, you’d feel pret-ty crappy, am I right?
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:26 am
Christ almighty.
You are incredibly immature.
By the way, I don’t really believe in set orientation for myself. I like boys, I like girls, I wouldn’t refer to myself as bisexual.
If I like somebody, I like them.
I don’t think I’m cool because I date older people, and I’m not going to comment on the drugs.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 am
What is the diference between gay and straight!? Two people in love, why does it have to matter what gender they are?
The Bible says that a man and a woman should be married.
The Bible was written around 2000 years ago. It’s 2008 now. Times have changed, probably for the better and worse…
People love who they love, you’re not suposed to help it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 am
Maine legislature needs to get on the ball and legalize gay marriage!
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:14 am
Yeaaa whuddup Baldacci.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:18 am
..What does drugs have anything to do with gay rights??
like Sofi,
I like boys and i like girls. Its called being bisexual. When people think of homosexuals, they think of child molesters and perverts. Peopl only think like that because their scared of different. I hear people calling me things all the time, but it doesnt bother me as much because i learned not to care what people think of me, and i kinda think its a little funny that people would waste their time and energy in trying to hurst someone like that.
and JADE;
i don’t get what your trying to say.. I meen, ive read your comments and none of them have anything to do with this topic. I’m not trying to come off as a “you kno what” but im just saying. And you shouldn’t keep using the work “gay” because like Sofi said, people find it really offensive if you don’t use it in the right term. I say that word too but not a lot because i woulnt like people saying that word around me, I find it quite offensive as well.
and Gay Marriage is about LOVE, not sex in whether your a boy and girl.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:39 am
Being Bi or gay or straight is fine. Oh and Bobo Mr. Clifford didn’t delete your comments, I did; therefore, I think you should have some self-respect and stop attacking Sofi because you’re simply insecure. I do not appreciate people ruining this blog. You are not contributing anything worthwhile at all. If you had a good head on your shoulder’s you’d stop.
I don’t understand what your issue is, but you need to stop. If you attack Sofi, then you better understand that we have the right to attack you.
Thanks for cooperating,
Erika
May 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
i have all the respect in the world for gays.. but they are different from the rest of us. they should not be able to get married because it is not what god intended.
May 28th, 2008 at 8:48 am
gays should have rightts but if they rapem little boys we should end the madness
May 29th, 2008 at 9:29 am
charlie:
how do you know what god intended??
do you even know if god exists??
you are being completly ignorant..
who knows if god indended for gays and lesbians to be together..
May 29th, 2008 at 9:32 am
let me make it clear that i do NOT believe in god.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:36 am
and charlie: what do you mean by “the rest of us”?????
you do relize that there are people at king who are not straight don’t you???
May 30th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Charlie, if you have all the respect in the world for gays, then my name is Mud. And if you actually believed in God and read the Bible and such, you would know to capitalize God
Ben, people think they know what God intended because of the Bible, it say something like, “man shall not lie with man” and people interpret that differently
May 30th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Ben, just because Charlie believes in God doesn’t mean he’s ignorant.
May 30th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Charlie,
that is completely wrong
Do you relize how hurtful what you just said is?
That was a completely ignorant statement !
Ben is completely true
How do you know if that isn’t what god had intended? What if it was?
Also how do you know that god exsists?
I do not believe in god anyway so i really do not care what he had intended that was still completely ignorant of you Charlie
May 30th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
CHARLIE:
-Wth are you talking about? you have respect for homosexuals but you dont think they should get married because thats not what god “intended” on. nott everyone believes in god. and homosexuals are not different from “the rest of us”.
what Ben al. said, not everyone in king are straight.
..im not. so does that mean im not part of every one else in king?!
And you dont even have respect for homosexuals, ive heard you making fun of people that arent straight.
May 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Charlie:
I feel as if your contradicting yourself in the same sentence. You said that you have all the respect for gay people but the sentence after you said ” but their different from the rest of us” you said that god didn’t intend to have them get married. I think that you should review what you say before you say it. When you said “like the rest of us”, who is the “rest of us”??? Like Ben Alcorn said, don’t you obviously know that people here at King and everywhere else are gay, lesbian, or something else. I think that you should think about that before you start saying things.
Think about it Charlie. PLEASE!
May 31st, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Wow, this is the first time I’ve checked out this site. Very interesting thoughts and comments. Quite honestly, I don’t have a clear cut view on how I feel about Gays and Lesbians marrying, although I’m probably leaning on the side of the fence that should allow it. I’m a Christian and have a very strong faith in God. I’ve experienced many situations in my life that have strengthened my faith and confirmed my belief. To me (obviously) this is not a cut and dry topic, although it seems to be for most of you. Charlie may be correct in his comment about God not intending for people of the same sex to marry since it talks about just that in the Bible (Leviticus 18). But, the Bible also addresses things that I certainly disagree with. I think it’s unfortunate that Charlie’s getting slammed for his opinion. Isn’t that what this is all about? How can he be accused of contradicting himself on such a sensitive matter? I read his words to mean that Gays are in the minority, which is a fact. I didn’t interpret them to mean Gay people are different than the kids at KMS. I’m pleased to see that he acknowledges the fact that people are to be respected, no matter what their differences are. Too bad those with an opposing opinions are made to feel like they can’t have a voice here. OK, who’s going to slam me, now? ha ha
May 31st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
uh oh. I proof read my blog a gazillion times b4 submitting and just realized a grammatical error. I noticed the grammar police were out earlier so, give me a break. : )
May 31st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Just one more thing that I feel I really must add to my previous comments…..Freedom of religion. Charlie had an opinion based on his religious beliefs. Obviously, not everyone believes in God, but many of us live our lives according to our religious upbringing. Correct me if I’m wrong, but is Charlie being denied the right to voice his opinion, without being slammed, because his religious views differ from others?
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 am
megan: i didn’t mean to write that charlie was ignorant. i meant that he should read what he writes before he makes a post..
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
No one was “Slamming him” we have an opinion too and should be able to express it freely as he has done, but there is and equal if not more people that don’t believe that “God” exists. Sure “God” didn’t intend for homosexual people to get married, but did “God” intend for Global Warming? If “God” wanted a perfect place wouldn’t he have made world peace?
June 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Mrs. Beaudet
Charlie has the right to say whatever he wants, but if we are not allowed to disagree with him, we are being restricted of our free speech. So, you are contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I totally agree that you have the right to disagree with others and express your own opinions here. But, when rereading the EXPECTATIONS (capitalized because that’s how it appears on the initial blog page), I noted, “respect others who are blogging”, “No personal attacks” and “Be open and understanding to other’s opinions……”. Saying someone is “completely wrong”, “hurtful”, “completely ignorant” in regards to one’s religious beliefs (even questioning one’s religious beliefs as to whether or not God even exists) doesn’t sound like they’re following the guidelines to me. Saying, “I disagree because….” and not making personal attacks would be the way to phrase it and keep with “expectations”. As for God and global warming, the Bible is up for interpretation, but some say that subject is dealt with in the Book of Revelations. In my position at KMS, it would be inappropriate for me to discuss religion any further than I already have (regarding the other comments). So Barry, any contradictions? : )
June 4th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Ms. Beaudet:
Yes, Charlie does have the right to speak his religious beliefs and all other beliefs he has. But you must remember this is a blog so people are here to argue with each other on their views.
Now on the topic,
Homosexuals—-No, maybe thats what they are but they don’t have to be called that. We can call them people.
Everyone should have the right to be with whoever that want to be with and if they are the same sex than thats okay as well.
Equal rights to all!
June 4th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Ms. Beaudet:
We have as much right to verbally “slam” Charlie as he does us.
Without that kind of debate, how would this even be an argument?
This isn’t a “let’s agree with and voice our own slightly different but somehow the same opinions” blog.
This is a debate blog, and it should stay that way.
Charlie, let’s hear your input.
Are you feeling slammed?
June 5th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Mrs. Beaudet
I am just trying to make sure that the blog is open for everyone to express their opinions.
I am not trying to make anyone feel bad, I didn’t even respond to Charlie’s original comment. I don’t make posts on the blog to put someone down. I make posts on the blog to alert people that other people feel differently. I agree that some people are being hurtful regarding religious beliefs but, they also have the right to say what they want. Everyone needs to watch what they say, and not be disrespectful.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:37 am
I agree with both Taylor and Sofi. Like Sofi said, this is a blog and people are obviously going to disagree with people, that’s what makes a blog a blog. Like Taylor said, Charlie has the rights to believe in what he thinks gay rights should be. But that does not mean that we have to agree with him.
Thanks
June 5th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Power to the people.
Barry I agree with you 100%
Everyone has the right to say what they want, but they need to be aware that those things could be said back to them,
June 5th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
It’s so important to have a voice. You kids have really impressed me since I’ve been here. You’ve shown me that the majority of you have respect for others, no matter their differences. You “get” that everyone has the right to be respected and receive the same courtesy in return. You’ve shown tolerance and self control when others may have been quick to judge or snap. That’s hard to do at any age and I know a lot of you have had to put up with more than your share of “stuff”. I hope you’ll always stand up for what you believe in and absolutely disagree when need be. Good luck!
June 6th, 2008 at 8:23 am
So yeah.
Hooray for gays.
If they really want to commit themselves to each other for the rest of their lives (which, in my eyes, is a stupid decision even for heterosexual couples), then by all means, they should have the right to go right ahead.
It’s the same logic I spoke of earlier on the blog about polygamy: Everybody has the right to get married if both (or all) of the partners agree.